Comments on: The End Of The Rego Sticker? https://www.privatefleet.com.au/blog/home/the-end-of-the-rego-sticker/ News and views about cars in Australia Thu, 17 Aug 2023 12:56:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.5 By: David (the policeman) https://www.privatefleet.com.au/blog/home/the-end-of-the-rego-sticker/#comment-3649 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:29:08 +0000 http://blog.privatefleet.com.au/?p=1784#comment-3649 Brando,

There are holes in idea that safety (cough cough) cameras at intersections can check for unregistered vehicles that you could drive a semi through. Yes they can detect one, but how will the Powers That Be determine (and prove in court) at a later date if its being legitemately driven (for the purpose of repair for/or re-registration)?

And if the owner no longer lives at the last registered address (which may have caused him/her to forget to register it) how much time is going to be spent trying to find this person?
Unregistered cars are also commonly no longer owned by the last registered owner (especially if he/she is a dirtbag who doesnt want to be found or is a disqualified/cancelled/suspended driver whom the RMS wont “do business” with and register their car) and how does one catch up with the owner/driver in these cases? Its a bit like the whole issue of speed cameras being a deterrence to speed (more coughing….) argument.

Please, dont get me started on all these wierd and wonderful coloured plates the RMS is churning out to anyone with the $’s that are so hard to read with the naked eye, especially with all of them having some reflective process they they give them that makes cameras read them, though rendering them invisible at some angles to the human eye. I saw a pink on black NSW set for the first time last night, and the common silver on black ones are awful. Money making at any cost…….

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By: brando https://www.privatefleet.com.au/blog/home/the-end-of-the-rego-sticker/#comment-3644 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:33:29 +0000 http://blog.privatefleet.com.au/?p=1784#comment-3644 “Safety” cameras… alias… “Speed” cameras (state government poker machines raising $1mill hidden tax per week each location) are now digital and the data is processed in milliseconds. they have the ability obviously to check the rego of every car that passes every main intersection (or location) in the state. those with no Rego… dodge every main intersection??
at less than $50.000 these cameras will just about put the cops out of a job. If it is $612.00 fine in Vic over $1000 in QLD, the uninsured/unregistered can end up becoming very large debtors to the Sate in a very short time.
If RMS/VICROADS/SAT/WAT/QT etc. save $millions per year by not issuing rego labels, are they passing that onto the motorists?

When will Govt privatise rego like telstra/ power/gas utilities…. they could make some more cost cuts.
With all the different “vanity” plates available in every state now it is getting harder to work out where cars come from.
It was interesting in WA, the plates have the prefix of the town where they were registered…. so people could tell if you were “from out of town”

Whatever happens the taxpayer/motorist is always the looser.

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By: Mike https://www.privatefleet.com.au/blog/home/the-end-of-the-rego-sticker/#comment-3642 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:35:16 +0000 http://blog.privatefleet.com.au/?p=1784#comment-3642 With online payments in NSW, having a current sticker just means you paid last year. On the RMS website you can now enter a registration number and it will tell you the colour and type of car and the rego expiry date. So every smart phone could be a rego checker.

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By: David (the policeman) https://www.privatefleet.com.au/blog/home/the-end-of-the-rego-sticker/#comment-3641 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:55:34 +0000 http://blog.privatefleet.com.au/?p=1784#comment-3641 To Russell,

Yes, we can check if a car is registered by three ways. Firstly the ANPR equipment. However, it cannot check interstate plates, refers to a database that can be up to 3 days old and often misreads (and doesnt check old NSW Bicentennial plates as the letters sit on top of the numbers.)
Secondly we can also check a cars registration by asking via radio for a check to be done, BUT, when every car we will see come next year wont have a label are we going to want to or be able to check EVERY car????
Prior to the introduction of efficient mobile data (MDT) equipment, the third method, abt 10 years ago, approx 1% of all the cars in NSW were unregistered. This equated to 80-100,000 cars on NSW roads all being driven around at any given time with a statistically inevitable destiny of many of them having at fault collisions with other law abiding motorists (particularly when added risk factors for some of the unregistered vehicle users are thrown in like them being unlicensed due to a propensity for traffic offences like speeding/drink driving, etc) There were so many, I used to detect them just on making random chance checks of a vehicle going by with last years rego labels on them. Some were out by as much as 5 or 6 years. It got easier to find them around the end of a given year as of course the percentage of vehicles with that years current label would be declining. There was a limit to how many times you could tie up your radio network asking for checks of regos, but with the introduction of MDT’s in police vehicles, that meant every car fitted with them could check the RTA’s database as many times as they like. I found that I could detect as many as 30 unregistered cars per 8 hour shift (and thats just with me, with my two fingered typing, slowly punching in registrations of cars that passed me stopped by the roadside, from time to time intermittently during the shift, and then taking time to deal with them.) Thats a staggering amount I’m sure most will agree based on random intermittent checks on only one given road at one given time)
But now with labels about to be scrapped, the clock is about to be turned back as it were and the vast majority of police (abt 88 percent) DO NOT have vehicles with MANPR equipment and never will, and they do not use their MDT’s on a regular basis (as they go offline when not regulalrly used) How can they or now I make a decision without any other indicating factors to check a vehicle from the approximately 5 MILLION vehicles on NSW roads without any indication from a label?????

Seriously, how hard is it to put on your new label on a vehicle? As for taking it off it takes me about 10 seconds on a car that has been garaged often (less sun to degrade the label), to about 2 minutes for one thats seen some sun with degraded plastic. And come on Russell, I’ve owned many motorbikes and there are any number of ways and holders you can use to display them legally. It just takes some tiny responsibility and a couple of minutes of your time at most to put them on when you pay your rego every year. Then hopefully the law abiding out there can have the label as a final reminder of when the rego is due, and the dirtbags deliberately driving unregistered cars can be found and taken off the road BEFORE they have an accident with YOU or I, and or rego costs will not increase.

I will end this post with a registration horror story I was involved in-
I attended an accident abt 10 years ago involving a mature woman who ran up the back of a tradies ute. Not a particulalrly serious accident, but unfortunately this woman had moved 2 years before and not let the RTA know. The rego renewal, along with a 1 month later “If your not going to register it where’s our plates” letter went to the old address and her rego label from when it was last renewed (when her BMW X5 was new!) was still firmly attached to her rego papers out of sight in the glovebox. Now intially the two tradie types in the ute seemed fine and both said they were uninjured. But somewhere after I had told the woman that as her car was unregistered she had no greenslip insurance, and her comprehensive insurance, although current, wouldnt be honoured by her insurer as her car was unregistered, and they seeing that she garaged her BMW in a nice north shore address, these two tradies came down with a bad case of Mediterranean Neck. This was apparent as I recieved a summons to give evidence at a civil claims court hearing about 5 years later, and it seemed that they could no longer work due to some pain in both their necks and backs. The amount offered by the Motor Accidents Autority’s fund was insufficient for them, and each now sought some astronomical sum to compensate them for not ever working again. I asked the womans solicitor to keep me posted on the outcome of the court case and I understand this poor woman lost her house.
This is one reason why registration and taking care of your personal business is important.

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